http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#08b6a5c5-4f83-4539-b270-459a64ba8842 Thank you, Astrid. Being good at it does not mean what I'm saying. It's a state of mutual respect where me and the guitar share the music. I provide the fingers and Rosy provides the audio vibrations. Not for public comsumption. Personal. Kinda sort of almost nearly like a devout praying. Define Zen. Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:07:29 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#08b6a5c5-4f83-4539-b270-459a64ba8842 Snert 2009-07-03T21:07:29Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#77fec37b-698f-42f2-9acc-b336d6cbf78f I said, the title was based on it. Nothing more. Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:08:30 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#77fec37b-698f-42f2-9acc-b336d6cbf78f Canela, too hot for you 2009-07-03T13:08:30Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#f6f90025-7fc7-47d3-a065-2a8016465332 "On the other hand, "Zen and the art of archery" was quite famous once, and I have not read that one (And this is what motorbiker modeled his title on). Has anyone read that?'' One of my favorite Zen books, I have found it quite insipiring. I didn't realize the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance was based upon it, and other that the title I see little parallel. I may have to reread it. Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:58:14 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#f6f90025-7fc7-47d3-a065-2a8016465332 lori 2009-07-03T11:58:14Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#ce8c9c19-0051-487c-afb8-a3c3e0a675c3 this one is for you, Snert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPGKbT0wylo Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:33:08 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#ce8c9c19-0051-487c-afb8-a3c3e0a675c3 Canela, too hot for you 2009-07-03T09:33:08Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#1238f702-bd3f-4500-93f5-8994502e03e7 Tango takes two. I can't do it without my guitar. By the way, her name is Rosy, she's a Fender, 10-12 DG. One of the people I love. I don't want to hear the BS that inamimate objects don't have feelings, I know different. Houses have personalities. Cars respond to attention. Places have an aura and respond to you. Tools work better when you listen to them. There is so much information coming from everywhere your mind gets overwhelmed with the input and thinking about all this scrambles and fries the brain. We learn to choose what we perceive so we can handle it. Deal with it or die. Reallity? That's a personal concept.. That's why I like Schrooms. The doors open. Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:50:29 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#1238f702-bd3f-4500-93f5-8994502e03e7 Snert 2009-07-03T06:50:29Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#4753b82b-e91a-4593-8b58-3a52b760d7b9 Argentine tango works the same way. Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:11:15 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#4753b82b-e91a-4593-8b58-3a52b760d7b9 Canela, too hot for you 2009-07-03T04:11:15Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#e4a192c0-9bdf-4ede-9c0d-8b53e5e5896a I don't know, but maybe I pratice Zen when I get into my guitar. It's me trying to find the right notes and chords and, without me noticing, the guitar is playing me. A blend of me and the instrument, if that's what it Zen is. I doesn't happen all the time, but when it does... I am one with the music. That's why I picked up the first guitar. If you don't like the music, quit listening. Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:38:44 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#e4a192c0-9bdf-4ede-9c0d-8b53e5e5896a Snert 2009-07-03T02:38:44Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#d3bec90f-9faa-4168-b16a-2ef6a767a9df ok, here is an amazon review (and the photo you can maybe rediscover somewhere on my blog, Snert): So many books have been written about the meditation side of Zen and the everyday, chop wood/carry water side of Zen. But few books have approached Zen the way that most Japanese actually do--through ritualized arts of discipline and beauty--and perhaps that is why Eugen Herrigel's Zen in the Art of Archery is still popular so long after it first publication in 1953. Herrigel, a philosophy professor, spent six years studying archery and flower-arranging in Japan, practicing every day, and struggling with foreign notions such as "eyes that hear and ears that see." In a short, pithy narrative, he brings the heart of Zen to perfect clarity--intuition, imitation, practice, practice, practice, then, boom, wondrous spontaneity fusing self and art, mind, body, and spirit. Herrigel writes with an attention to subtle profundity and relates it with a simple artistry that itself carries the signature of Zen. --Brian Bruya --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. Review “In this wonderful little book, Mr. Herrigel, a German philosopher who came to Japan and took up the practice of archery toward an understanding of Zen, gives an illuminating account of his own experience. Through his expression, the western reader will find a more familiar manner of dealing with what very often must seem to be a strange and somewhat unapproachable Eastern experience.”—D.T. Suzuki, author of Zen in Japanese Culture And then there is yet another American book on Zen, sigh- "Zen and the art of faking it" (amazon again): When eighth-grader San Lee moves to a new town and a new school for the umpteenth time, he doesn't try to make new friends or be a loner or play cool. Instead he sits back and devises a plan to be totally different. When he accidentally answers too many questions in World History on Zen (only because he just had Ancient Religions two schools ago) all heads turn and San has his answer: he's a Zen Master. And just when he thinks everyone (including the cute girl he can't stop thinking about) is on to him, everyone believes him . . . in a major Zen way. About the Author JORDAN SONNENBLICK is the author of many acclaimed novels for Scholastic Press. He lives with his very supportive wife and two remarkably amusing children in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Drums, Girls & Dangerous Pie was his first novel. Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:43:27 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#d3bec90f-9faa-4168-b16a-2ef6a767a9df Canela, too hot for you 2009-07-02T16:43:27Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#b0daaca9-a3d4-4912-9f71-31e1ffc2e4aa I had a copy that walked off. I wanted to learn what the author had to tell me. The cover had a picture of what looked like a medieval Japanese bowman pulling down ready to let loose. Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:36:50 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#b0daaca9-a3d4-4912-9f71-31e1ffc2e4aa Snert 2009-07-02T16:36:50Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#e4b781ee-93e0-441e-a272-cc7cbfd1f4c7 Doctor Seuss on Zen? Uhuh... I never quite understood who Phaedra is supposed to be either. Sounded like some sort of prophet but who? On the other hand, "Zen and the art of archery" was quite famous once, and I have not read that one (And this is what motorbiker modeled his title on). Has anyone read that? Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:52:08 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#e4b781ee-93e0-441e-a272-cc7cbfd1f4c7 Canela, too hot for you 2009-07-02T04:52:08Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#5c593c5e-1175-4eee-a3c2-8160ddd58940 I read it way back when it was trendy. Don't plan on reading it again. I'd rather reread all of Doctor Suese' books about Zen.. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:21:50 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#5c593c5e-1175-4eee-a3c2-8160ddd58940 Snert 2009-07-01T17:21:50Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#3e09f75c-27ce-425e-af3c-b94c7d659876 Don't worry, Suz, Rajalee won't tell you becauzse she only pretends to have read anything, and I can't beause I skipped that part. Anyway, it is some sort of cult book though I don't really know why. Amazon review says that repeated readings will reveal the hidden meanings. I just don't feel like it, I have read much better books on Zen. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:53:14 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#3e09f75c-27ce-425e-af3c-b94c7d659876 Canela, too hot for you 2009-07-01T02:53:14Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#dfe1f11e-6a6a-42ff-99de-5ebd53e94a2c Could y'all please put "SPOILER ALERT" before giving away huge plot points? Thanks very much. I've read it, but somebody might be checking out this thread to see if it's worth reading. :) Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:46:34 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#dfe1f11e-6a6a-42ff-99de-5ebd53e94a2c Suz 2009-06-30T20:46:34Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#648746de-8cc7-4ac1-8cfe-07ce32ec02b4 What does he confess? That book is probably buried somewhere under hundreds of others and difficult to find, you will have to tell me. Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:45:02 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#648746de-8cc7-4ac1-8cfe-07ce32ec02b4 Canela, too hot for you 2009-06-17T14:45:02Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#481dea54-ad9a-4d19-a334-20a983d96ff9 The last 4th sucked but that is the confession. You must stay for the confession, when the guru confesses, that is a rare day. Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:16:55 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#481dea54-ad9a-4d19-a334-20a983d96ff9 $item.owner.firstName 2009-06-17T03:16:55Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#30e2315c-6a0c-4168-8da9-44316c4de27f No rambling to you? Well, care to explain what you understood about the last fourth of that book? I followed it up to about the section where he teaches composition of papers to a student with writing block, after that I slowly lost it. So, what do you like about that book? Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:03:44 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#30e2315c-6a0c-4168-8da9-44316c4de27f Canela, too hot for you 2009-06-16T13:03:44Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#96b1582e-547a-4584-8819-e0daf47211c7 no rambling to me. i'd say it's pretty clear you're in the romantic section of this particular dichotomy Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:57:55 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#96b1582e-547a-4584-8819-e0daf47211c7 nommolucas 2009-06-16T12:57:55Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#165f74bc-088c-4509-bad2-6f49b5dd6c05 Yep, read it, or 3/4 of it, then it turned more and more into abstruse rambling and I skipped to the end where he described how his son died in a mugging. I prefer Paul Bach (was that the name? not sure. Was it Reps maybe?) and his "Zen flesh, Zen bones" stories. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:12:59 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#165f74bc-088c-4509-bad2-6f49b5dd6c05 Canela, too hot for you 2009-06-16T11:12:59Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#e8d38edd-cf26-4fcd-8e41-f2ff07bc030d you read it again. or you're suggesting to read it again? i need to read lila again. i got more out of lila. motorcycle is a good read but lila spoke to me more Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:09:06 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#e8d38edd-cf26-4fcd-8e41-f2ff07bc030d nommolucas 2009-06-16T06:09:06Z http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#dcc4990a-2609-4242-9175-3c767d2da032 read it again. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:42:09 GMT http://ijustfinishedreading.tribe.net/thread/acc8e3cc-ecdc-4373-9b81-d5f8b4ee6c04#dcc4990a-2609-4242-9175-3c767d2da032 $item.owner.firstName 2009-06-16T05:42:09Z